Comments on: ID & Expelled

By: cancerman

cancerman — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:56:17 +0000

I’m looking forward to seeing the film. I think skepticism deserves a place in any debate.

I think the problem is that science believes it has to work from the assumption that there is no God.

By: cancerman

cancerman — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:37:49 +0000

I’m just saying that creationism is kind of a new thing. I think Moses was contrasting the Genesis view of creation with the other competing theories (Egyptian, Canaanite, etc.) of his time.

The important thing is to focus on the truths we know to be true,ie, the non negotiables.

It is funny to me how much derision the intelligent design people get in the mass media. I do think that evolution deserves some skepticism from a honest mind. As PJ O’Rourke (as far as I’m aware a non believer) says believing the big bang is like believing you can drop eggs, cheese, etc on the floor and end up with an omelette.

By: Paul Bankson

Paul Bankson — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:37:21 +0000

Well this “educated preacher” believes in intelligent design and the calendar day view of creation though I don’t think that has to be a test of orthodoxy as long as the non-negotiables are affirmed. James Boice & B.B. Warfield, as examples, held to the “day age” theory of creation which allows for an old earth. Those guys are considered theological stalwarts in my circles.

I guess I was just born too late to be of any help for William Jennings.

By: cancerman

cancerman — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:34:40 +0000

My point is that people should be aware of what the Bible says and what it does not say.

Did you know that one of the problems facing William Jennings Bryan at the Scopes Monkey Trial was that he couldn’t find any educated preachers who believed in creationism. The creationist movement and fundamentalism in general date from about 1920.

By: Paul Bankson

Paul Bankson — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:29:15 +0000

C-man, I know where you’re coming from and I’m sure we would agree on the non-negotiables of Creation (creation ex-niholo, man is God’s special creation, etc).

The ID movement, as you know, is not a young earth position per se as much as it is a refutation of Darwinian evolution.

I’m looking forward to this movie as I think it will show the almost irrational hostility academia has toward those who believe in ID.

Thanks for the comment!

By: cancerman

cancerman — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:14:36 +0000

It’s hard to find anyone willing to have a reasonable discussion about how we got here. You are much more likely to find people trading memorized answers than asking real questions.

I grew up in the creationist movement. Now I think you can be a reasonable Christian and not believe in a 6 day creation (Plus 1 to rest). I don’t think there is a clear cut answer to cling to.

I do think the Bible clearly teaches that we were created for a reason by God. I also think that Genesis tells us we are all created equal before God.

Anyway thanks for blogging. I’m sure you’ll be hearing from me.